Huzzah, it worked! Here's that Solly/Scouts request picture, again, since it got erased.

Also, more of this obnoxious pairing.

Sh....shiny. Sniper's ass. SHINY.

I noticed there's a lot of detail in the, uh, liquids... And it looks really good. It sort of stands out, though, because the level of detail in the small areas versus large areas contrasts so much.

But oh man. Your medics are sexy as always.

Figured I'd stick this here and not in the other board; it's not porn, but it's arguably torture porn.

>>1823

Thank you! I've done a lot of experimenting with different ways to do sweat/jizz/etc, and I'm still not entirely satisfied. Practice practice, I guess.

>>1873
Ooh maan I can feel the pain there hnkdmfnkdasd. Medic you sadistic (and masochistic?) bastard. Their faces are hot by the way.

>>1873
I enjoy this too much, and should probably feel like a horrible person for doing so.
But I feel quite the opposite of horrible, so I must thank you for this delightfully detailed display of sadism.

>>1879
>>1887

I rarely do guro, as it usually doesn't turn my crank and I don't want depictions of gore in my pictures to inspire a banal reaction, (from myself, mostly) but I did enjoy working on this one quite a bit. I only wish I'd given the Medic with the saw a more bland smile.

More awkward-looking gag/porn picture. To clarify, the sex scene is supposed to be a product of the Scout's frustrated imagination, and not a recollection of something that happened.

The pairing that I still love the most. I don't draw as much art of the Heavy as I'd like, because his sheer size makes it difficult to come up with interesting poses for him where you can still see his face and/or the face of the other participant. Also, for the bored and interested, I now have a dumblr page to clutter up with all of my scribblings- it's http://yangpuppy.dumblr.com . Just replace the 'd' with a 't'.

I love your stuff so much, it's unreal! Especially that Medic and Heavy picture. There can never be too much bottom Heavy.

>>1951
Finaly top medic! The last one I saw was made...by you.

>>1951
I knew that it was not a massage.

>>1957
It was a massage.



A prostate massage.

in response to your "ein prostitute" picture...Scout should just be grateful for what he gets...hes pretty low on the pecking order I'm thinking.

>>1961

Why chase down the scrawny little fast one when you have a big slow musclebound man to keep your ribbon trained on? Scouts always run when you try to heal them, anyways.

>>1964

That's what the Quick-Fix is for.

>>2025
It wasn't out yet when she made the comment. Besides, sometimes you'll turn to heal them, and they'll zip right out of your line of vision, so you end up just looking like a dork. I think that's what she means, and it's a lot more annoying. Especially if you've mained Medic for a while.

Durp. Inspired by the board's more experienced gore artists and a comment that, uh, someone made about how the Medic would've had to get one of those ubercharge things in his own chest, here's my latest offering.

>>2026

Yes.

>>2028

I like this.

I like this a lot.

>>2028
...that *may* have been me, though I know others have stated this.

I bow at your feet for this. Poor Engy looks like he's going to buckle over.

>>1873
>>2028

dear yang,

please draw more gore. it is relevant to my interests.

love,
Kaz

>>2028
Medic's face.

>>2029
>>2031

Do ho ho ho ho. I am always happy to please others, and while I'm not really a huge gore artist, I try to do my best at anything I do. I've always sort of had the idea that the Medic wasn't big into gory sex, but that he has a religious enthusiasm for his own unique brand of medicine. If we're imagining him to be a complex character, he must be very good at compartmentalizing his emotions while he transitions from one task to another throughout the day.

>>2030

Though it isn't obvious, Engi is really upset here because the Medic doesn't seem to want very much help from him. For a mad scientist, this is like being invited to a circle-jerk and then being made to watch the other guy masturbate in front of you. Maybe even better.

Also, I realized this morning that I'd forgotten the graphic effect on the ECG. I fixed it elsewhere, but I'm loathe to spam this place with my stuff and thought someone might want to see a version of it without the heavier lighting filter I added.

>>2033

>>2034

Okay, okay.

>>2035
Oh Engineer, you don't look like you're being very helpful.
I wonder what heart Medic dug up and gave himself?
The lighting in this is very nice, by the way. Medic's torso seems slightly too short for his face, considering where his clavicle is? But I can't deny my eyes keep getting drawn to the tautness of dat stomach.

>>2038

I may have set his collarbone a bit low in an effort to give the appearance of perspective.... ah well. If we're going to pontificate over animal hearts, my personal hope is that he used the heart of a wild boar from the Schwarzwald.

Officer, I swear I only coloured this because the people on Dumblr told me to.

This may be the worst Medic I have ever drawn. At least we have the consolation of knowing that the "dove" costume was his idea, and the only reason that Heavy wears the pants in this relationship is because the Medic lets him.

>>2058
Hoooooooly crud, Yang! Worst medic ever? That cannot be true. Anyway, the point is that I'm seriously in love with this picture. Just wanted to let you know.

>>2058

>This may be the worst Medic I have ever drawn.

I don't know what you're talking about.

>>2058
You just earned a one-way ticket to have my babies now.
I laughed so hard that I think I currently have some unaccounted for organs

>>2062
>>2063

Aww, you guys. I've tried to avoid doing too much sissification in my art, just because it gets old fast and can kind of weaken a picture- I want my fanart to relate at least a little to canon, rather than just being pictures of a sissy old man in a dress. It's not to say that I don't like it, I just don't want to be boring or un-funny. It's the same reason that I only did one picture of a TF2 character dressed as a sailor scout. Any more and it would have just been kind of creepy and dumb.

>>2067
We're not asking you to do more, we're just basking in the awesome and lolz while it lasts. We understand your reasoning for not doing more, but that's not gonna keep us from laughing at what's already there!

>>2058
Oh wow, that heavy

>>2058
I just jizzed in my pants.

>>2070

I suppose it's a bit silly to be self-conscious about what kind of porn fanart I draw, isn't it.

>>2077
>>2092

Those are positive reactions, I think....

Also, I lied. Have more sissy Medic.

see: The Shining

Here, this makes up for sissy Medic, doesn't it? I havn't seen nearly enough fanart of the Scout putting up a fight...

>>2126

This looks like EVERYTHING I want to be a part of!

>>2127
I really, really love this.
Scout needs to be shown more respect bashing more wannabe-rapists' skulls in.

>>2126
Yes, that was positive...you just draw the best Heavies.

>>2127
That there is Sgt. Donny Donowitz. You might know him better by his nickname, "The Bear Jew".

>>2127
Does...

Does Scout have a boner?

>>2145


He totally does.

>2126
This reminds me of that dress for a dude's balls someone drew a while back. Great job, by the way.

>>2129
>>2133
>>2148

Do ho ho ho ho... I seriously have to think of something else to draw, now.

>>2132
>>2145
>>2146

Scout is a vicious bastard, and I've never been able to grok fans who depict him as a doe-eyed little boy. Also, that's totally a rage boner.

>>2153
>Scout is a vicious bastard, and I've never been able to grok fans who depict him as a doe-eyed little boy.

Are we talking about the Sniper\Scout thread? It's just so... desu-kun. Didn't want to say anything, but THE DAMN THING WON'T DIE.

>>2155

Naw, I meant in general. So much bad, everywhere you look.

>>2156
Oh, it is sad day.
Also, hi! I'm the one noob that wrote that one Scout\Medic fanfic that I never finished. In case you wanted to know.

It's okay if you didn't.

>>2157

If it's the one I said I liked, I still like it and don't slot it in with the, "Scout as an innocent waif who gets raped by everyone else on the team, mostly Spy" camp. I'd like it more if you finished it, ho ho.

He's supposed to be saying something coy like, "Herr Heavy, don't make me beg."

This took me forever, largely because of the pose. I'm still not sure if the Heavy's expression is too derpy, but other people didn't seem to think it detracted, and I hate making porn pictures that involve a 'person' and a 'faceless source of penis'.

Also, I'm really predictable. Also also, I hope this does compel Marty to write more porn for us.

>>2208

You say that like drawing lots of Heavy/Medic is a bad thing.

>>2208
>porn pictures that involve a 'person' and a 'faceless source of penis'
Call me weeaboo but this is my fetish. I don't think I've seen any TF2 porn of the classes getting gangbanged by faceless masses. I might just /r/ that now.

Don't stop being awesome, yang. By the way, I love your cross-dressing Medic.

Your drawings are getting better and better!

Oh. Yes. I don't know which I love more-- that second Medic-in-drag, or the pic of Heavy being a bit of a tease (because, mmm, half-dressed Medic getting sexed up is very much my bag)...

>>1951


Just wanted to say I'm amazed you know who the Bonzos are. :V I'm a big fan of 'em too, grew up listening to them, and my mom worked on a documentary about Neil Innes. Cool points to you.

>>2282

My dad's a Brit comedy afficionado; I've been subjected to Goon Show records and the Bonzos since I was 4, and it's really shaped my love of music. It's good to know that I'm not alone, heh heh.

>>2209 >>2224 >>2269

I'm sure that some people are sick of Heavy/Medic, and of coy!Medic, but as hard as I try, I can't seem to get tired of drawing both. The trailer seems to confirm that, canonically, he's a perfectly approachable guy, provided you like bird-brained mad doctors with an overly cavalier approach to their teammates' health.

>>2291

As someone who is not the world's biggest Heavy/Medic fan (in fact my #1 request is always Heavy/Someone Else), I actually like your pics, because you draw them as manry men and you make even Medic in a frilly dove outfit somehow plausible.

>>2291
I'm not sure about other people, but Heavy/Medic is something I can't imagine being tired of, especially when you draw it.

>>2297
And despite not being big on Heavy/Medic, you're always bothering to concrit my stuff, which is something I genuinely appreciate. This one's for you.

>>2302
Still not sick of it, despite what I'm posting here.

>>2339
This is so amazing!

>>2339 hahahaohmyjesuschrist sniper has back hair

>>2339
yang, you and your pics are fantastic

*.*

Yay, Hoovy finally gets his well-deserved harem!

>>2339
Heavy is missing doctor. That's where his "Not sure if want" face is coming from.

... Still amazing.

>>2339
Sniper's expression: unf!

>>2339
Oh god you fulfilled my Heavy/Engineer, Heavy/Demoman, and Heavy/Sniper boners all at once.

>>2351
Actually I think BLU Spy is wearing a Medic mask in this.
I could be wrong though. I'm probably wrong.

>>2364

No, you are right. Also, it warms my heart to know that I have managed to fulfill so many cheap thrills with my art.

>>2339

Someone in the /afanfic request thread had asked for a story involving 'drunken shenanigans' with Demoman and Medic; I don't write fanfic, as I'm far too indecisive about everything I do and would never finish it, but I expressed an interest in attempting a drawn version, so here it is.

I don't advocate doing anything this stupid in real life, for the record, and honestly, I wasn't sure if this one was too silly to colour.

>>2386
Oh yes! Me gusta!

>>2386
Requester here,

This is awesome!

>>2386
wow what is wrong with his feet

>>2386
How in the world do you mess up Medic's torso but everything else is fine for the most part?

seriously what are internal organs

(Encouraging trolling as a moderator won't be tolerated by the administration.)

Welp.

>>2394
i made this do you like it
also how has tf2chan been letting you get away with all this bad anatomy ordinarily they would keelhaul you for this kind of stuff
i don't know what happened tf2chan but i'm shedding a tear

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>>2394

I lol'd. I didn't think anyone else noticed that

>>2392
>>2393
>>2395

Thank you for the thoughtful and constructive criticism!

>>2398
Alright, you want concrit? I'll leave you concrit.

Stop what you are doing with those faces right now and think about facial structure a bit more. Heavy's seems too wide, there seems to be almost too much definition on the way you draw them (especially around the lips.) Also take the time to learn how torsos work. The way you draw them is far too short. The colours are fine. Also around the knees in the OP picture, there seems to be too much definition again. It's a hard choice between stylistic art and making something look realistic. You seem to be stuck somewhere in the middle.

TL;DR Pick up an anatomy book and draw their faces from a reference first, before trying it the way you are.

>>2398
No, seriously, look at the size of the torso on that medic. Taking into consideration the size of his butt, it's way too small, especially in comparison to the length of his limbs. There's no room for his internal organs to be inside of it comfortably.

It's a similar problem I have with the sniper in >>2339. It's way too V-shaped and isn't large enough to hold anything. Along with the previous guy's statements, those are the main issues I have with your work. I do like the more angular style you have as well as your use of color.

>>2395
If people like you don't post anymore, it's obvious that only the praisers are left ...

Sorry, just leaving my bit of thought about people who critize what something has become when they are part of the problem.

Yang, I agree with the criticism especially about the last picture - Your style is neat and strong, but you allow yourself too much leeway with anatomy sometimes. No shame in hitting those anatomy books and references once again to fix stuff!

>>2398

Alright here is some actual reference for you to use instead of just bashing

Here is some Andrew Loomis.
http://alexhays.com/loomis/

Here is some Burne Hogarth.
http://tinyurl.com/42pqafj
http://tinyurl.com/3cnvggx

Here is some George Bridgeman.
http://tinyurl.com/3ocs4yt
http://tinyurl.com/4x95wd6
http://tinyurl.com/3dhkdap

You have a great sense of anatomy already, but that's nothing if your sense of proportion is wrong. Your torsos are way too short, is the main thing. Work on face structure, draw some skulls, draw from reference, etc. The way you draw forearms, wrists, and hands is off. To me, it looks like the character has no wrists at all, it's just hands attached to the radius and ulna.

Also the way you outline every single muscle with such eye-raping clarity is jarring. If you changed the lineart color from solid black to a darker flesh color, it wouldn't be such a shock to my eyes.

Your colors and sense of lighting is okay. I'm glad that you use reflective lighting.

Just tone down your want to clarify and define everything, study some anatomy books, study porn, draw from life, etc.

Flipping your canvas horizontally will help you find mistakes.

>>2402
these are really good resources, but don't bother trying to read hogarth's writing in his books if you plan on getting it, it's real bullshit (as one of my art teachers have said)

I'm also going to suggest Eliot Goldfinger's anatomy book. It's geared more towards sculptors, but it's still a great resource nonetheless

I don't have much else to contribute since everyone else has said what I wanted to say

>>2386
Alright, some concrit. Demoman's feet are screwy. Also his right shoulder is out of place and his wrist is too thick when it should taper some more. The location of Sniper's penis almost looks like it's been dismembered given the placement of his hands.

>>2399
A bit catty, but this is closer to constructive criticism; if I didn't want concrit, would I be posting here? I've gotten a lot of useful criticism in the past, and it's helped me to improve my art. I use model reference extensively when drawing the characters' faces, just as I use anatomy reference, (and even anatomy books!) but it's not always possible to just copy a pose from a photo, and like everyone, I make mistakes. I drew the OP picture back at the start of June, so I don't think I'll go back and touch it up now, though. Personally, I always liked the exagerrated faces, though I probably could have done a better job on the Heavy's arm and knees. Gauging torso length is something I do have trouble with, and I appreciate the feedback from the people who brought it up without the arrogant snippy crap.

>>2400
Now, that's more like it! Was that so hard? You stated a technical problem you saw with my artwork in a way that actually explained the issue, rather than just coming across as rude bullshit. You could have done that when you first started posting in my thread, but this is a learning process. Despite your childishness, you did inspire me to go back and touch my most recent picture up a bit, and I feel a lot more satisfied with the way it looks, now.

>>2401
Perry, you are always helpful, honest, and you don't ruin anything you have to say by being obnoxious. Foreshortening is the bane of my existance, and despite repeatedly trying to gauge and regauge the foreshortening on the Medic in my latest, the results were somewhat off. In the past, I would have put it in /workshop/ first, but I'd found that the only people offering critique of my stuff seemed to only do it on this board, so I stopped trying.

>>2402
I appreciate getting honest criticism and feedback, especially on that nebulous thing called 'style'. I've done a lot of searching in recent months, trying to find good anatomy reference resources and ways to get a better handle on muscle proportions; I downloaded the Loomis figure drawing book you linked, and will have to take a look at the others. I've struggled to get better at drawing joints, but as I've started to understand the mechanics behind the human figure, I have started to feel more confidence in how I am rendering knees, ankles, wrists and forearms. I'm not perfect, but I draw because I want to get better. Linework is another thing that I'm wrestling with, and I've been trying to find different ways to render things without the heavy lines. I see artists drawing with very heavy line weights, and others who use very light line weights, and neither look entirely satisfactory when I try them myself; I hate spending hours picking away at a drawing that's basically finished because something about it doesn't look 'right' to me, and the best way I've found to identify mistakes is by having a person who hasn't been staring at it all day take a look and tell me what's wrong. I'll have to remember the 'flip the canvas' trick to help me in identifying mistakes earlier.

>>2412
I appreciate your feedback, but I'll confess that words like 'screwy' don't really give me a solid idea of what you're trying to point out. I ended up adjusting the Demoman's arms and shortening his legs a bit, and repositioning the Sniper's arms on your suggestion.

>>2392
>>2393
>>2395
Just FYI, we're all (supposed) to be adults here. Please act like one. Thanks.
I understand each one of you children have already been addressed by the OP, but I could not contain my art student rage in silence furthermore.

>>2402
Thank you very much for providing this nice list of must-reads. I love you.
Burne Hogarth is a beast

>>2419
Two in the morning, snipey little bitch rant. My apologies, I'm used to dealing with Sparkledog artists that throw a fit even if they've asked for concrit.

>>2419
I try my best, thank you so much! I understand the struggle with foreshortening, it's hard to get into. I'm not sure if we have enough perspective reference in the sticky in /workshop/ - If you need stuff, ask right away, I have resources.
Your last picture wasn't perfect either, but this one clearly shows that you need to practice perspective more. My props for trying a difficult angle, keep at it. Just because it came out hella wonky this time doesn't mean it won't work out in the future.

You should post more in /workshop/. It's seriously a board more people need to look at. Hopefully more people will reply to your search for help since they saw now that you really want it.

Keep it up!

WELCOME TO TF2CHAN
WHERE POSTING GORE AND DICKS IS PEACHYKEEN
BUT IF YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT OFFENDS SOMEONE ELSE
YOU'LL NEVER HEARD THE END OF IT.

Just a few more things

http://www.pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php

http://www.posemaniacs.com/thirtysecond

http://lovecastle.org/draw/

Doing these for a few minutes each day will help you break your problem of jacked proportion.

also DO NOT BE AFRAID TO LOOK UP REFERENCE

You may think that looking up photo reference on google is cheating, but trust me it's not.

Have you ever heard those people who think that making digital art with a tablet is cheating, or using photoshop tools is cheating? As long as you're not flat out tracing or recoloring, there's no reason to be afraid of using resources that are there to make things easier for you.

And to be honest, I was part of the group on Hipstr that started the drama. I can't speak for rest when I say this, but I'm deeply sorry. What we did was very childish and immature.

>>2419
I aggre with you that people rarely visits /workshop/

>>2434
This is amazing, thanks for that!

>>2434

I appreciate you keeping almost all of your childish nonsense to yourselves, but please don't waste my time with it. Not to be dramatic, (and honestly, this is about the most polite and subdued drama I've ever had to deal with) but this sort of sophomoric retardation really kills my enjoyment of places like this, and I'm not alone.

A few of you are being assholes in this thread for no real reason, and a whole lot of you have jumped in on the bandwagon.

Using "critique" as a guise to be an outright asshole to people doesn't fly here. This will be enforced with zero tolerance bans.

If you think a piece of artwork is bad, either you give critique, which does NOT include being a jackass, or you don't comment, keep scrolling, or hell, report it. Do NOT start a shitslinging session over someone's art because you think it's bad.

People willingly put their art on the boards for others to see, it is by all means not an invitation for shitslinging. /afanart/ is an art board for one, and people DO want crits, REAL crits. And if you are going to be an asshole about it, then don't post.

If people didn't want to improve, then they would go somewhere where replies aren't enabled, or places like dA. Instead, they post here on the Chan, where crit is EXPECTED. Yes it has been a little lax lately, but being a jackass is never a crit, and never will be.

And no, this is not to say that artists are allowed to get away with things, either.

To put it in a nutshell. Stop whining, stop the asshole remarks, crit /with content/, and enjoy the art.

>>2436
So you think criticism is childish nonsense? It may sound harsh, but people are actually trying to help you improve.

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>>2451

>And to be honest, I was part of the group on Hipstr that started the drama. I can't speak for rest when I say this, but I'm deeply sorry. What we did was very childish and immature.

I've got nothing else to say about this dumb mess, so let's just pull our feet out of our mouths and move on, yes?

Pic unrelated.

>>2452
(totally irrelevant)
... ... ...HAHAHAHAHA omg why am i laughing
i like that picture a lot

>>2419
Demoman's foot is still extremely boxy and stiff-looking. I'd redline but my Photoshop is borked and I can't find my tablet.

Wow, late to the party, much, self?

I'm not exactly sure what happened, but at this point, Yang, do you think it would be a good idea to start a new thread on /afanart/ so that you don't have to scroll through all of that really hateful stuff anymore? I'm just thinking it'd be the best thing to do at this point, but eh.