pretend he's lounging on something

>>9380

Where's the rest of this? I want moar.

>>9380

...I like you already.

I like what you have to offer and I humbly request for more.

>>9380
you have my attention

Seconding aaaall of the above posts.

I am intruigued and aroused by your art. Do more. :D

Bumping this because this shit is awesome. Your expressions are fantastic, as is your anatomy (ENGIE'S ELBOW HNNG).

>>9379
Something about his left hand seems kind of off though.

Go on...

Well hey there kids, after suffering a burned scarred hand, I am back.

>>9445
Most likely it is too small. Sorry bro, my anatomy needs work

>>9815
Size isn't the problem. The hand's bent further upwards at the wrist than the joint usually allows.
>>9380
I'm loving this picture. The style reminds me of Burne Hogarth.

I'm not big enough to make my own thread yet.

spent all afternoon on this, please crit.

>>9824
The more I know~* Next time, I'll pose my own hand before drawing awkward gestures like that.

In other news, color!practice Pyro. What are backgrounds.

>>9849

HOLY FUCK THIS IS AWESOME. Very in character for the doc. Could use a bit smoother lines and rounding out the nose on the spy would make him look a little less animu.

I submit a Spy and a bird for your approval


I know his hand is messed up... by the time I realized it, it had all been inked and colored.

>>9898
Resize it. A lot.

>>9898

>>9898

>>9898
size aside, it's a neat drawing, the shadow effects are very nice. :)

Yeesh, took me a while to find the newfag thread... Guess it's time for me to test the waters, ne? ...Be gentle.

>>10183
Oh, ya, explanation. These are generic headshots of characters in a fan comic I'm planning, made so I could refer to it if I forget what my own characters look like ^^;

>>10183
>ne

>>10186
>^^;

stop doing things like this and you'll do fine, lil' newfag

>>10183
I like 'em, only thing is that Spy is rather distractingly close to Heiro's Bleu from her fancomic.

>>10183

Just watch out you don't end up suffering from Sameface with all of your designs. Their features are looking a little generic at this point. You started to work with slightly different facial shapes and proportions, but it could really be pushed a little further. I do like your colour palette though, and that Demo is kinda keen. Just try to keep your characters distinct and play around with a few expressions on your reference sheet too.

>>10183

Honestly, all of these faces look the same, but none of them look like they belong. Do you not notice the vastly different facial structures of the TF2 characters, it's what makes them such great designs and you've completely watered them down.

>>10235
Ya, initially he was what inspired me, but I think his hair is going to be a bit longer, and I assure you, character-wise, he is very different.

>>10240
>>10243
Admittedly, yes, I do have problems varying facial structures. I find myself drifting to that default that I am comfortable with. Efforts to change that are being made. However, my style is different from the stylized TF2 look, so I'm not really trying to duplicate it as much as translate in my own style.

>>10244

None of this "it's my style" excuse.

You've not translated it so much as filtered it out. These are very unique people, and your "style" is flat and generic animu, and your facial proportions need redefining.

Study the characters, draw them from screenshots from every angle. Learn what KEY FEATURES set them apart and make them distinctive and interesting to look at. These are concepts that will drive any good style, whether or not it has deviated from the original look.

>>10183
You've got a nice clean style here, but the faces are just too flattened down and don't give them the level of personality that makes them all so unique. Also, while I like the textures on the clothes, it just doesn't really work on the hair. Maybe just try flat colour for it?

>>10258
I mean doesn't. I speak English good, I swear.

>>10258
I have noticed the flatness, and despite efforts to fix this, nothing's worked yet. Any suggestions?

>>10249
This has ceased being criticism and has become hurtful.

>>10280

Personally, I think it's sound advice.

A little tough love goes a long way. Makes you feel better once you've improved. It's worked for me.

>>10280

try not to take crit so personally. Honestly, I could say way worse things that feel more like personal attacks because I am a dick. But I don't because I know that won't help you improve. If you feel it may be a bit on the "mean" side, I suggest picking out what might help you and ignore the rest that might feel like an "attack".

>>10280

I don't feel the need to fluff my criticism, take it or leave it. Look elsewhere for compliments, but my suggestions are constructive. That's my completely objective opinion and there's no reason it should offend you.

>>10288
>>10291
>>10293
I know what you're trying to say, but I guess I find it a little hard to take when 1) I have yet to see someone else be criticized like this, and I've seen some very animu-esque styles, & 2) when I'm not told what I'm doing right in addition to what I need to work on. Everyone knows crit is easier to take when there's even a grain of kindness in it.

I'm sorry if I'm a little defensive, but I got ripped apart by one of the most bitter art teachers I've ever met at a portfolio review and it almost made me stop drawing all together. It still stings to think about it.

>>10294

My critique was blunt, but I would not say it was harsh. Even still, you need to toughen up and take the worst of it, including straight up insults, if you intend to be at all serious about your art. Even if there's not a shred of constructive criticism, try to understand that it's still useful to know that something about your art provoked it.

I don't even comment on someone's artwork if I think it is completely beyond improvement, and this is a good thing. But I never give critique that I wouldn't personally want to receive.

>>10294

That's the wrong attitude to go about it.

Maybe it's just me, but after I came here, I started /wanting/ to get ripped into. If you get compliments, you start to stagnate, which I had been for years before I came here.

There are artists that can pull of the animu-esque style, but it works because they still make the differences in each of the characters very apparent. They're all shaped different, have different face shapes and body types, and this is still something I'm struggling with too. If you still want to work in an animu-influenced style and show unique features and face shapes, you could check out the kind of work guys like Naoki Urasawa and Masayuki Taguchi do. Every single one of those characters all have distinctive faces and sizes and it works beautifully, and it's another reason I have drifted away from stuff like what CLAMP puts out.

I'd also like to encourage you to experiment with non-animu styles and just draw from life, or play around with a drawing style you've never tried before. It will still be /your/ style, because you drew it, but I find it gives the artist a lot more flexibility. In one of my classes, we've had assignments to design cartoon characters inspired by different animation studios, and I've had a lot of fun doing it. It's a good exercise.

So, don't take any of this too personally. We are trying to help you, the artist, and some of us are a lot more rough around the edges than others. You grow a thicker skin, and you'll be a better artist for it.

>>10294
Other people HAVE been criticized like this, just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't happen. You aren't being singled out, just take a moment to consider that the criticism offered is intended to help you improve, rather than hinder you.

Not exactly a newfag but I don't have a thread so

>>10296
Ya, it's nice to know my art provoked a response of annoyance and boredom; that it isn't unique or attention-catching at all...

>>10297
I guess I've been unlucky, then. I've barely had 1 actual art class, because either our art program died or you could only choose 1 art and I chose choir. It's frustrating, but if being on here has taught me anything, it's that because of that, I'm fucked. I have no clue how to grow...

>>10298
I'm sure it has happened to others, but what's the statement? "Link, or it didn't happen"?

>>10305
God, now I feel like a fucking emo... Cry moar, newfag... *bashes head against wall*

>>10306
As well you should.

I can't believe you're actually arguing that you're the only person who's ever had people criticize them on tf2chan. We're, like, famous on deviantart for being assholes to people. And nothing that was said to you in this thread was actually a personal attack or mean in any way. You're getting upset and bawwing all over the place about what Chemical Alia said? Shit, son, that was mild.

>>10305

http://www.tf2chan.net/fanart/res/9323.html

There ya go. This person suffered from animu chin and decided to use the crit they were given and even asked for more advice. As you can see, they improved upon their stuff instead of complaining. All you did was post one thing and then get defensive when we tried to help you and didn't disregard the people poking fun at you which should be ignored in the first place.

My advice is that if it REALLY bothers you, shut up. Because people will eventually just mess with you instead if they see that you won't take constructive crit gracefully. You're getting pretty close to that there, buddy.

>>10305

Man, I /am/ trying to help! I just gave you some advice, duder, don't be so hard on yourself. It doesn't hurt to /try/.

There's a thread in /help/ full of folks who would be more than happy to help you out, give you redlines and such. There's also an entire thread full of references for the models that ought to help you get the body sizes and faces shapes down.

We all gotta start somewhere. The only obstacle in the way of your improving is /yourself/. Now, stop feeling sorry for yourself and start drawing.

Polite sage.

>>10183
too samey. obviously verbal help hasn't been of any use to you, so i took the liberty to try an quickly mouse-sketched example.

also, please don't cry. people kissing your butt all the time won't make you draw better.

the more people tell you you're bad, the harder you have to try to prove them wrong.

by the way, where did you get your textures? they're simply fabulous.

i dont feel like making a thread

unmasked pyro i guess

>>10337
*shrugs* Google image search.

>>10362
His expression makes me think that he really is saying "hudda hudda!" under the mask, and everyone was hearing him perfectly clear.

Alright, Anon would like to apologize for unnecessary drama from yesterday--nerves & 3 hours of sleep & wonky antidepressant meds made me quite a tool. I'm gonna sleep and do some practice sketching and get back to you with a better attitude.

>>10299
And this is quite amusing, faggot-chan. A shame it got its lol-thunder stolen.

Um, hopefully not too much skin for /fanart/? I'll delete if that's the case.

>>10511
is the left hand upside down?

>>10511
The left hand does look a bit wonky--I think I know what you were trying to do, though ;)