I'd pick Sniper/Spy. Out of all the pairings I love, I'd consider it my OTP. It was my first, and it's the one I tend to come back to the most.

But with Valve, a more crack pairing is probably more likely, like Soldier/Shovel.

To ACTUALLY have Heavy/Medic as canon, as opposed to just being "may as well be canon", would make me unable to walk for the rest of my life. I'd float everywhere.

Miss Pauling and the Administrator. We all know they have a Burns/Smithers relationship.

>>12887
Op here. Also my otp. I think sniper/spy would be the perfect canon couple, simple because they're rivals and so different from each other. I'm still expecting a re-update of spy vs sniper (hopefully on valentine's day...who knows? DREAMING IS STILL TAX FREE OK)

>>12888
Medic/Heavy would be, from my point of view, more fun if they added a couple hints during the game that they were dating. Other than that, I don't see them really as a couple? Just lot's of BROmance, but that's my opinion.

>>12890
I never thought of that couple. I personally ship the administrator with Saxxy (and maybe the admin/Gray Mann because they would be perfectly evil together?). BUT SOUNDS GOOD

I have this dream that a decade from now, when all the homophobic twats have moved on to newer and inferior games and there's nobody left on TF2 but the cool people, somebody from Valve will pull a J.K. Rowling, and offhandedly mention that, by the way, Heavy and Medic were fucking all along.
I hope so much that I really wouldn't be surprised if it happened.
I haven't the audacity to hope that Valve would confirm such a relationship while TF2 is still on the mainstream, but if they had the balls do do so, I would present everybody involved with a charitable donation of free fellatio for the rest of their lives.

I know the pairing is predictable and utterly unspectacular. That's exactly why I want it so badly.

It'd be Heavy/Medic for me too, but I always feel kind of guilty imaging my ships as canon, because that ends up invalidating other peoples' ships, and I don't like the idea of them getting upset.

Sniper/Spy. Preferably RED Sniper/BLU Spy, because I'm very fond of RED Spy/BLU Scout's mom.

Heavy/Medic is a close second.

Tbh, I don't really like Heavy/Medic very much, because of personal preferences. I'm a big fan of belligerent sexual tension, so I'm generally uninterested in pairings where the characters get along perfectly well.

(Did you guys watch The Nanny? My favourite kind of pairing is along the lines of Niles/C.C. If they are never at each other's throat, I tend to lose interest.)

However, if Heavy/Medic became canon, it would dispel the stereotype that all gay people are limp-wristed and effeminate pretty boys. Heavy is as strong and manly as it's humanly possible to be, as well as non-conventionally attractive. I'd LOVE it if such a character were canonically gay!

>>12895

I can't say I feel as generous as you do. As a slasher and y.aoi fangirl, my ships get invalidated by canon pairings all the time. If, by some miracle, one of my gay OTPs became canon, my reaction would be more like <I>"FUCK YEAH! FINALLY! CONFETTI FOR ALL! WHOOOOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOO!!!"</I>

Spy and Engineer. They're perfect opposites in body type, role and personality. Their roles are much more intensely entwined and balanced on the field and they feel more real to me than the typical Sniper/Spy which just seems to have chosen the most 'conventionally' attractive types and put them together.
They're two types with high intelligence in different fields and the tension when they're on opposite teams would be especially high.

Realistically I'd get behind Heavy and Medic because... it's about time, really.

>>12898
I can't call it necrophilia. But I...even with straight pairings I like, or with gay pairings where both end up with someone else, I've gotten chewed out over who I ship. That's the only reason I feel bad. That, and I don't want the angry homophobic straight male gamers who don't believe in slash ever to gang up on us, even if they're completely wrong. People of all body types and age can be gay, nothing wrong with it.

Sexual tension is why I don't understand Sniper/Spy. When I love someone, I have a fluffy, romantic relationship with no arguments. I can't see hating someone and also wanting to fuck them.

>>12901
I'm sorry to hear that you got harassed over your pairing preferences. Bullying somebody just because they like a different pairing is disgusting behaviour. You shouldn't feel bad, you did nothing wrong :)

Oh man, this is why I got worried when PC Gamer UK posted an article about TF2Chan. I sincerely hope homophobic fanboys will stay the hell away from this site. Wasn't TF2Chan attacked once? I think I heard that the site went down for a while because a bunch of assholes attacked its server.

(It would especially annoy me if the attack happened now, because I just finished the first chapter of my very first TF2 fic, and plan on posting it when my beta-reader greenlights it. This site must cater to my selfish needs! It's about about memeME!)

Eh, I can't really argue this point, nor can I explain it. It's just a matter of personal preferences. Personally, a fluffy romantic relationship would bore me to tears. You can't argue taste, different strokes for different folks :P

Still, I want to make it clear that I differentiate between "hostility" hate and actual hate. It's one thing to feel attracted to a guy who gets under your skin (especially if the reason he gets under your skin is that you are in direct competition with each other), it's another thing entirely to be attracted to a guy who is actually abusive. IMO, the former is kinky, the latter is unhealthy.

Plus, hostility is relative and changes with time. Like in the case of Niles and C.C.: they started out truly scorning each other, but by the final Season they had grown much softer, their arguments had become a game. I loved it so much!

>>12902
Nono, it's okay. Different strokes for different folks, I agree.

I think I'm just wary of argumentative or hatesex relationships because I've seen couples irl try to throttle each other, and it's scary. That doesn't mean Heavy and Medic can't have a disagreement here and there, either.

>>12902
Who are Niles and CC, btw? Sorry for my stupidity.

>>12902
Btw, before anybody asks the obvious question "stabbing and shooting a person is not abusive?"

They are both trained and armed mercenaries who are paid to fight on the opposide sides of a war. And Respawn and the Medigun make injuries and even death completely trivial. Given the very specific context, I would put "he stabbed him to death!" on the same level of severity as "he pulled her braids!"

>>12903
You know, I'd love to read a fic where Heavy and Medic have an argument. I don't think I've ever seen that. It would be different... Gonna go request that now!

>>12904
You never watched The Nanny? It was a fantastic show from *check Wikipedia* ...holy shit. Nearly 20 years ago. Good God I feel old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_nanny

Niles was the snarky part-French-part-British butler, C.C. Babcock was the rich bitch. They snarked at each other all the time and it was hilarious.

>>12906
I could send you any of my RP's. My partner's Medic even broke my Heavy's nose once, but he felt guilty about it, apologized, and kissed him.

I'm sorry, I haven't. I'm only 21. Growing up, the only shows I watched in the 90's were cartoons (overprotective parents and that).

Thank you for your offer, I really appreciate your generosity :)

But, outright domestic violence is not my preference. I guess this is why I much prefer cross-faction Sniper/Spy. Sniper beats the enemy Spy on the battlefield? Well, he is supposed to. Sniper beats his own teammate? Makes me cringe.

Thank you anyway!

>>12909
It was before they were together. It's not...I don't like domestic violence, I actually hate it. I grew up in a household where that went on, I stressed that earlier.

>>12910
They got into a fight and it only happened once, but there was a lot of animosity between them for awhile. The Medic was scared because he'd feared the Nazis and didn't realize that a Russian was harmless and just wanted to be partners. Sorry I didn't clarify.

Oh, I see, that sounds much better. Guess I jumped to conclusions.

But, I'm sorry, I feel extremely uncomfortable leaving my email address in a public site. I also try to keep my fandom identities separated, "Millia" is a name I use exclusively on this site, so I can't link my blog either.

I do appreciate your offer, but I still can't accept. Please don't take it personally, I mean no offense.

BLU Soldier/RED Demoman aka Jane and Tavish.

All the pairings. I'm not picky. Sex (and orgies) for everybody!

I tend to enjoy hate/vitriol pairings, they are fun, but Heavy/Medic makes me smile because it's unconventional as far as a ship goes.

You see lots of shops that are vitriolic, they're popular, because they're very dynamic and lend well to crack.

Heavy/Medic, however, is sweet. Heavy's big, smart, ponderous, cuddly, and has fun causing lots of violence. Medic is scatter-brained, manic, goofy, classy, smart, and somehow manages to maintain an appearance of sophistication despite being the crazy bird guy without a medical license. They fit well, and have differing enough personalities, but enough similarities, so bounce off of each other well. It's actually a believable relationship.

Doesn't hurt that they remind me more than a little of myself and my fiance (he's a big, heavy, fuzzy man who is very smart but doesn't bother showing it off, and is super freaking cuddly, and medical license issues aside, I fit a few points of Medic's description).

Personally, I see Heavy/Medic as being kind of like an old married couple: fairly stable and nondramatic, but they probably do have some pretty major arguments from time to time. I mean, in "Meet the Medic", the Medic is constantly lying to and hiding the truth from Heavy. In only a minute or two, he lies to him about blowing up his heart, fails to tell him the replacement is from a megababoon, and then lies about ribs growing back. And judging from the look on Heavy's face, he knows Medic is bullshitting him a bit but he's choosing not to say anything about it. And, seriously, stage whispering to the bird? Medic couldn't lie his way out of a paper bag, so it's no wonder Heavy knows. And if Heavy ever did decide to make something of it when Medic is being basically kind of an asshole, they might have a fight.

But you know how Sniper/Spy is a relationship where they start out fighting and then feelings develop? I think Heavy/Medic might be a bit of the reverse of that: they start out friends, become more than that, and once the relationship is stable they feel comfortable airing out their grievances with each other sometimes. Medic letting the birds have free range of their bedroom, Heavy putting his dirty boots up on Medic's desk, Medic's sophomoric interpretation of Nietzsche, whatever. Like an old married couple!

If I had to choose only one, Heavy/Medic for sure. If I can choose more than one, Spy/Sniper too. What I wouldn't give for Valve to pull a Dumbledore about Heavy/Medic like someone above mentioned!

Gonna say Heavy Medic, just to have some validation. I mean, it already makes so much sense. Otherwise, I'd like to see pretty much any of the characters canonly gay with or without anyone. Does that make sense? Pretend it makes sense.

I gotta say Jane and Tavish; they're nearly canon already as crossfaction friends to say the least (especially with those adorable unused voice clips that were regrettably tucked away). It's disappointing that they're not more popular considering the fact that they had a comic, contest, and update dedicated to their friendship. But I guess I can understand why it would be behind Heavy/Medic's obvious fluffy dynamic and the hostile hatelove tension between Sniper and Spy.

People tend to forget how incredibly close they were for whatever reason, and with all the emotional angst they went through, making them canon would soothe my aching heart. And imagine the fantastic make-up sex teehee

Heavy/medic obviously.

It's the only one that even has a remote chance of happening in canon.

Pyro/Engineer, providing Pyro's identity remains a mystery.

>>12925
>>12926

This pretty much summarizes why I love Heavy/Medic, and would, with a slightly heavy heart, advocate it as the pairing I'd love to see officiated.

I like Tavish/Jane a lot, but kind of feel that it would be too melodramatic if they had been lovers as well as friends, considering how their relationship ended.

Spy/Soldier.
Because I once saw a picture and it forever implanted the idea into my mind, and I absolutely love it when Valve does things that are so far flung from what the fandom expects that it's not even the opposite, just beyond it all entirely.

>>12915
This, actually. I'm kind of anti-shipper mentality so I actually liked it better when the fandom was small enough to be pretty flexible with pairings and before secondary fangirls from more weeaboo fandoms monopolized a lot of the output via a feedback loop. But if I had to choose just one instead of all of them, it would probably be Heavy/Medic since it doesn't need a whole lot of melodrama or other BL cliches to work, and hey, even a decent amount of non-slashers like it to some degree. As for the other superpairing, Sniper/Spy, I'm kind of lukewarm for it so I wouldn't hate it if it became canon based on the characters' canon personalities, but I feel like it got popular for the wrong reasons (like above), and I've encountered a disproportionate amount of shippers for it who are emblematic of the reasons why people who aren't ya.oi fangirls develop a revulsion for those who are. Nothing against the pairing itself, but I'm worried that if Valve goes and makes it canon, it's going to be a sort of validation for the immaturity and dickish shipperfaggotry that's more common than it needs to be among Sniper/Spy fans.

>>13009
Specifically, I mean the ones not on this site.

I'm just going to jump the bandwagon here and secretly hope that Valve will indeed pull a Dumbledore on Heavy and Medic one day. I'm fairly certain it would make Valve one of the best gaming companies to ever grace this planet.

Honestly, I've sat down and thought about this before, and I'm still not quite sure how to answer this.

I do have quite a handful of ships. I'm a pretty big Sniper/Spy shipper, not only because of the Belligerent Sexual Tension but because of the fact that they're both relatively isolated and I like the concept of lonely people finding each other and dumb crap like that (so hopefully I'm a step above the necrophilia fangirls?), but I'm not sure if I'd want that to be canon.

As for Heavy/Medic, yet another ship I highly approve of but am on the fence about in relation to whether or not I'd seriously like to see it be confirmed.

Would I love to see one of the classes being confirmed as gay? Definitely. That would be amazing. But I just wouldn't be able to say which one.

I kind of like the way they throw in subtle little teases without confirming anything. If anything, I'd want to see that more often.

BLUscout/BLUscout ma
Scout the oedipus.

>>13099

Not sure if I would die of laughter or live to a ripe old age from laughing if this became cannon. Everyone's reaction would be the most priceless thing. Fuck everything else, I'm getting behind Scout the Oedipus.

>>13102
Scout the oedipus, THE BEST SCOUT EVER

>>13103
>>13102
>>13099

Whoa scoot whoa man quit macking on your mom.

Wait how does one develop an Oedipus complex anyway?

what is the psychology of incest its interesting Im actually asking lets talk about incest whats wrong with me oh god

>>13104
Many theories behind it. I personally think Freudian stuff's a bit nuts, but here it goes.

Basically, at some young, primitive age, we learn to discover the differences between our parents, and thus acquire gender. Almost all children develop some sort of attraction for their opposite gender parent, but it's nothing obscene at that age. Just "When I gwow up I'm gonna mawwy daddy, and be a pwincess" sort of idea.
As the child grows, they're meant to become more independent, and less dependent on their mother. With a father figure in their life, they learn to transfer the opposite-sex attachment to the parent of the same sex, or a figure in place of it. 'Every little boy wants to be like his daddy' sort of deal. If a father figure is absent, then this can be a problem.
The mother, in this equation, must also be willing to let the child grow away from her, and become independent. If she's too overbearing, and convinced to let him stay her little boy, then often, he'll let her. I'm thinking, with Scout being the youngest of his brothers, it's entirely possible that she'd want him to stay her little baby boy for a bit longer.
If a father figure is absent in Scout's life, it also could lend something more to this. Perhaps his father left at a crucial point (the beginnings of the Oedipal stages are between 3-5), and Scout strived to try and fill his shoes. Be the man of the house.

For more information, watch that episode of American Dad I saw last night, where Stan had issues with his mother's boyfriends.

>>13099
I'm not normally into incest, but I'm not kidding or being ironic when I say that sounds really hot. Would at least be a nice smack in the face for all the obnoxious Scoutkiddies who like to turn him into an uguu~ uke, even if the rage would only last for a very short time.

Urf. Parent-child incest is just a no for me. Scout maybe experimenting with his brothers, that has potential, though.

>>13108
I'm not a big fan of incest in general. Sort of squicks me out. Doesn't mean I won't read it...

I'm surprised no one (that I know of) has written much Oedipal stuff for Scout. I mean, hell, he lives with a guy who can disguise himself as damn near anybody. I'd exploit the hell out of that.

All I have to go on is my own preferences and headcanons for Scout's mom, and in my head I think she'd say no if Spy came to her and disguised as Scout for a fetish-y thing, but really, I have no idea. I'd like to see more background on her.

I do know she was mentioned again in the flavor text of the new Scout pistol, the mafia one, but nobody seemed to notice that.

>>13111

I had no idea there was a blurb for this thing, thank you!

I think it would be pretty cool if Valve went against the odds and just had a little moment between Sniper and Engineer. They kind of fit the 'Those two guys' trope and it would be pretty amazing if during a big scene they teased at Heavy/Medic and Sniper/Spy but then Mundy just suddenly takes Dell in his scrawy hairy arms and they share a small kiss and all the other mercenaries look really fucking surprised/shocked.