>>399
Probably have to agree here. Even though it appears that the buttons are in match with the cigarette, I still think the brown/bronze buttons would look better on RED spy;

>>400
I agree that you should stay on the color pattern and make Red's button dark brown rather then white. Maybe make Blu spy's white?

I love how she's looking! But the buttons seem a little off. Maybe try a version where the gold and brown are swapped, so Red has the brown, and Blu has the gold/bronze? At a distance, they kinda yank the eye away from the face.

>>410
I hope she trys sniper next...then she can have the support classes done.

>>397

I'll have to test them out to see what happens when I use them. Only one other person told me they had problems so far, and a re-install evidently worked for them. When troubleshooting, I could really use as much info as possible.

>>385

I was thinking of doing something like gold/copper and silver/white for the red and blue buttons, but I'm having trouble envisioning anything looking really nice. Right now they're both different shades of brown. I guess my biggest concern about the BLU outfit is it's too cool, and I wanted there to be some warm highlights somehow to balance the outfit on its own, but that might just be a weird idea I got in my head, lol. I also liked the idea of the blue ones being darker, like the cigarette, but I think that grey would look gross.

I'll just try out a couple variations and see what people like. Also, the boots will be shiny black in the end, they're just grey to show the details better for now since I made some changes.

>>408

That could work. I'll try that too.

>>396

I did a pretty quick job unwrapping the coat, since I was planning on mostly solid colors, so something as precise as evenly spaced pinstripes might look like ass without me redoing that part. But I can try it out and see how they look. I don't really think pinstripes suit this kind of style for a coat, though, so that's why I stuck with them on the stockings.


>>410

Probably the Sniper or Demoman.

>>414
I vote for sniper...I really would like to see your take on a fem sniper. Most like to give her a ponytail and some shorts. Also I like the idea of copper/silver for the buttons. Blu is full of "cold" colors and red "warm" colors so I think they are fine as is.

I'd love to see your female version of Demoman!

May I suggest a temporary view of stripes on her jacket, just to let us compare stripes to no stripes. I feel that the jackets seem to lack something, but I would like to see stripes just to see if they are that something.

>>419

Sure. I want to do a mock-up sheet with a bunch of variations before I finalize them, I'll add that to the list.

>>376
>>any thoughts you might have about the color scheme (especially the buttons)

Personally, I think the color of the sleeves and pockets should be the same color as the coat. As it is, it it just doesn't look right to me. Also, the pointed tips on the scarves look a tad silly to me. For everything else, I am in love.

>>424
You know now that you say it, the pointed tips look like links hat from zelda kinda sorta...

Alia, are you going to make the sunglasses transparent like Sniper's?

>>424

Yeah, I'm gonna try out some things. Not sure what I'll end up with.

>>474

That is what I want, like 10% transparency. I haven't had luck getting it to work selectively on certain parts of the model in the past, though.

>>474

This is the result of the alpha sorting problems I'm having. Obviously "$translucent" "1" isn't the answer, lol.

But hey, check out that phong.

>>476
Whoa.
Have you tried $mostlyopaque in the model .QC?

>>477

I've actually never heard of that one, will give it a try. $alphatest just makes the whole head invisible, haha. I've since put the lenses on a separate material, since that's how they did it with the sniper. Thanks for the suggestion.

>>476
The thumbnail makes her look like a zombie.

Sage for totally useless comment.

Finally got the opacity working on the lenses. Worked on the eyes and the shader stuff, I think these things make a huge difference. I just want to add a normal map for some minor things like wrinkles on the coat and scarf.

Here's a few variations to show some different buttons, cuffs, pantyhose stripe widths, etc. I want to hear what other people think works best out of these images for the final color scheme, I tried to take as much prior feedback into consideration as possible.

Next up is facial expressions, and that's the last big step. Then testing, adding the voice, and putting everything together for download.

(Sorry about the lack of stripes on the coat, I wasn't able to get a workable version done without redoing a lot of the uvs last night. I'll try to do a quick mock-up this week, to see if it's even worth trying out.)

>>486
Hrmm, not a big fan of the thick striped stockings. It kinda takes away from her body and draws a bit more attention to her legs. I mean I guess that's a good thing for her?
I don't care what anyone says, I'm in love with 4B spy. I love the blue shaded glasses. As for my RED spy, I got to go with 1A. I like how her colors mix.

Really random but is that dried blood on her boots or just some red light bouncing off of them?

>>487
Agreed on the striped stockings. I think they would look better with a solid color.

As for the color schemes, I think my favorites are 4A and 4B, though I think 4B would look better with darker sleeves and less saturation on the glasses.

>>487

Oh, I didn't even notice that. Random color noise like that comes from a detail map, you see that in dark areas on TF2 models, it simulates the look of brush strokes here and there.

>>489
What you're looking at is a faint hint of the fire overlay used when the classes catch on fire. It's a problem with how the model viewer handles the $detail command in the material. Not brush strokes unfortunately.

>>486

Really great work. Have you put any thought into how hats and whatnot will interact with the head? Unlike the Medic/Heavy hats I cannot see many of the Spy hats really working with that headscarf/sunglasses combo.

Overall I think the silver buttons with BLU and the 4A RED buttons work the best. In purely game terms I have to disagree with the consensus and say the ones with cuffs which match the headscarf are the best- they have an immediacy and the feeling of a uniform. It's the difference between a woman who is employed by a company and is forced to wear the colours but has cut them to be fabulous, and a woman who has dressed fabulously and just happens to be on a battlefield.

Hnnnggg...I almost can't decide...

I really like 3A and 2B. Both their buttons stand out nicely and their sleeves and pockets blend in just right.

I also like what you did with the coloration on 4A's sleeves and pockets, but I prefer the darkest button shade on both models.

I'm hoping you try out pinstripes for the coats next, and even though I like the striped stockings I'd like to see what the models look like without them.

>>490

And here I was giving them the benefit of the doubt.

>>491

Yes, I'm working on repositioning all the hats now. Interesting point about the colors, too, thanks. I haven't heard anyone mention something like that yet.

>>492

I un-lazied myself last night and re-unwrapped the upper torso so there's no texture stretching (you can get away with more of that when it's a solid color). I'll try out pinstripes next.

4A and 4B

and I also agree with the sentiment of solid-color leggings

4A's coat, 2A's stockings.
5B's coat, 2B's stockings.

Yup. Really great job you did on the models there. I'd definitely pick them up with great enthusiasm once they're complete.

I'm really supportive of light-colored buttons because it resembles pinstripes.

Under the coat.

Last week's first test in-game.

The bottom row are all_class hats without being edited, so they don't fit quite perfectly in this picture. I'm only going to edit the ones I absolutely have to, and the medals still aren't working right for me.

I'm about 1/4 through the 40 facial flexes, and I still have the HUD/UI/menu stuff to do. Also, DustyOldRoses posted a new set of voice clips, if you're interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-nkF84wo40

>>511
That voice acting is sounding absolutely wonderful, I'm glad that you've found someone so talented this time around. I wasn't too big a fan of the female Medic and Heavy voices, but this sounds pro.

>>511
Oh god.. And I thought I wanted the Le Party Phantom so spy could look cool.. I think I want it even more for FemSpy....
she looks great Alia! Can't wait to download her!

I can't wait to see this! I love the female heavy and medic. Have you noticed any issues with them due to recent updates or anything? Hard for me to tell myself since all my graphic settings are real low.

>>486

Said it on DA, and I'll say it here: 1A/1B ftw.

And I personally love the striped stockings - that style helps hit home what time period she's from, and it's a little extra detail to catch the eye.

Thanks, you guys. I appreciate it, especially since I'm going through some annoying troubleshooting at the end of this project.

Pretty cool ragdoll, eh?

>>546
oh lord the stretching. It's actually comical too. Nice to see that it's almost done!

>>588

I've just released an update that addresses the hat clipping problem (was using an older set of them that was offset by mistake). Made a bunch of other visual improvements like spec masks, added female spy disguise mask, and fixed the bug that wouldn't show different classes on the mask besides Demoman.

http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/107782

Also holy shit, I don't know how the voice pack could possibly at all be humanly better than it is, I literally could not have found a more suitable voice with a million dollar budget. 0:

>>596

I agree. The voice you have for her is perfect.

She's great, I'm downloading her as soon as I get my new computer.

Yay! I'm all excited! I listened to the sound files, some of them cracked me up. Especially the scout/rainbows one.

On a related note, are the facial expressions supposed to work as well as the normal models? They don't on mine. Like the female medic and heavy will smile and such, but their mouths never open. I think it's a thing on my end but I'd like to be sure.

So Alia, what do you think you'll work on next?

>>600
Give her a break man, she just finished this.

Captcha: femomc
Is there a class called 'the omc'?

>>601
How did I imply I want her to start right now? I'm just asking what class she may be planning next.

>>603
She stated earlier that it could be Demo Engy or Sniper

>>596

Just have to mention the incredible job you did on the model, as well as the superb voice acting from Roses. Magnifique!

>>588
>REALLY stale voice acting

Have you heard the femmedic and femheavy voice acting? The lady who did femspy is AMAZING.

I'm conflicted. I want to download this so badly, but I also want to keep my stylish spy. Ugh. If you're taking suggestions, I'd vote for a femengineer, but I'm biased.

>>621

SHE DOES
Hairy legs

>>617
Switch back and forth, that's what I do.

Chem, you got posted on the TF2 blog.
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=5223&p=1

>>665

Thanks for the heads up. This makes me super mega happy.